Trialogue #28: Morphogenic Family Fields (Terence McKenna, R. Sheldrake, R. Abraham) [FULL]

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Trialogue #28: Morphogenic Family Fields

A Trialogue held on June 8, 1998 at Santa Cruz, CA, where Terence McKenna, Ralph Abraham, and Rupert Sheldrake explored Rupert’s concept of a morphogenic family field.

Rupert Sheldrake: “And so in human family groups we’d expect the same kind of morphic fields [as in other animal family groups]. . . . It would mean that family fields, with their morphic fields, would have a kind of memory from the families that contributed to them. The father’s and mother’s families of origin would come together in a family.”

Rupert: “Whatever the merits or demerits of [Bert] Hellinger’s system, which I think is very interesting and apparently very effective, the idea of making models of the family field seems to me something that one could address in a more general sense.”

Terence McKenna: “The family thing works because people really are complex chemical systems with genetic affinity.”

Rupert: “There are amazing cases where young people commit suicide in a way that mimics the unacknowledged death of an ancestor, like suicide by drowning when an ancestor one or two generations before have committed suicide by drowning, but they’ve never been told about it because it was never acknowledged. And you get these extraordinary patterns that repeat.”

Rupert: “We don’t have adequate models for these family systems, nor the influence of ancestors within them, which my interest in morphic resonance makes me very keen on.”

Rupert (describing an indigenous belief): “But you have to be on good terms with the ancestors. And what being on good terms, above all, means acknowledging them. . . . that you name and acknowledge the key ancestors, you acknowledge all the dead in your lineage. And if you miss anyone out they’re going to be angry, and if they’re angry that means trouble.”

Ralph Abraham:”I’m extremely suspicious of the application of quantum mechanical concepts in the arena of psychology, consciousness, sociology, and so on. To me that’s much fuzzier than the face on Mars.”

Terence McKenna: “Part of the problem is that physical models break down when prosecuted to quantum mechanical levels.”

Ralph begins his explanation of the physics of the nimbus, otherwise known as a halo.

Terence: “The more successful psychoanalytic theories, it seems to me, are the least mathmatically driven, and depend really on this mysterious business that we call the gifted therapist.”

Art: Christian Rex Van Mennin ‘Keyhole Portrait 3.4’ & ‘Keyhole Portrait 3.2’

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